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it's all about the deficit. he's not interested in people's suffering. he's interested in the deficit. that's where his focus is. >> that's exactly right. and he's not interested in the argument that perhaps for a stronger economy we need to care about the middle class and if we keep chopping them off at the knees, there's not going to be anybody to buy the products from the companies they're investing in. >> ari, we know the president when he was in the midst of that negotiation of a grand bargain with speaker boehner, he contemplated the prospect of raising the age at which it would trigger entitlements, particularly for social security. do you think this time around he'll do the same or do you think progressives will hold him to account on that and say no, no way? >> i'm concerned about it, and i think the problem is the red lines on the left side of this debate are not as clear as the ones on the right. you know, everyone spent a lot of time worrying about whether grover norquist is happy. but the fact of the political ecology in washington is there
it's all about the deficit. he's not interested in people's suffering. he's interested in the deficit. that's where his focus is. >> that's exactly right. and he's not interested in the argument that perhaps for a stronger economy we need to care about the middle class and if we keep chopping them off at the knees, there's not going to be anybody to buy the products from the companies they're investing in. >> ari, we know the president when he was in the midst of that negotiation of...
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our ultimate goal is an agreement that gets our long-term deficit under control in a way that is fair and balanced. that kind of agreement would be good for our businesses, it would be good for our economy, it would be good for our children's future. and i believe that both parties can agree on a framework that does that in the coming weeks. in fact, my hope is to get this done before christmas. but -- the place where we already have in theory at least complete agreement, right now, is on middle-class taxes. and as i've said before, we have two choices. if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. starting january 1st, every family in america will see their taxes go up. a typical middle-class family of four, would see its income taxes go up by $2200. that's $2200 out of people's pockets. that means less money for buying groceries, less money for filling prescriptions, less money for buying diapers. it means a tougher choice between paying the rent and paying tuition and middle-class families just can't afford
our ultimate goal is an agreement that gets our long-term deficit under control in a way that is fair and balanced. that kind of agreement would be good for our businesses, it would be good for our economy, it would be good for our children's future. and i believe that both parties can agree on a framework that does that in the coming weeks. in fact, my hope is to get this done before christmas. but -- the place where we already have in theory at least complete agreement, right now, is on...
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he said that's going to put a drag on the economy but we have to do something about the deficit. i don't really understand reasonings. i think he needs to go back to economic then i would argue the deficit gets worse because the revenues don't come in because the unemployment rate goes up. >> you're absolutely right. france instituted a 75% marginal tax great early last night grease going we've got to make sure we're getting gross right if we want to face the deficit. you go pro row tax reform you broaden out debate like an 82-year-o 82-year-old. >> you think, however, reading from your notes and looking at the stock market, particularly retail stocks, you believe that taxes are going up. you believe that's the stock market message, it meal why then. the blebs saying it when you look at the retailing names, the market tells you they think all the middle class market will get extended. you see order? core it's not just this consumption that's going to you're going to gets will live dent, small cap stocks are underperforming. we're going to have a hard cap gains tax, a high are def
he said that's going to put a drag on the economy but we have to do something about the deficit. i don't really understand reasonings. i think he needs to go back to economic then i would argue the deficit gets worse because the revenues don't come in because the unemployment rate goes up. >> you're absolutely right. france instituted a 75% marginal tax great early last night grease going we've got to make sure we're getting gross right if we want to face the deficit. you go pro row tax...
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social security has not added one penny to the deficit. for those who say there is good reason to push it off the table and wait, i would add a note of caution. small changes made today in social security will play out over the long run to buy us solvency for a long time. we should take perhaps all the security off the table but be very honest but we will achieve in the near term. i think we should create the equivalent of eight simpson- bowles region of a simpson- bowles, and come up with a plan to buy 75 years of salt with the rigid of solvency. i might add a wrinkle here. every 10 years, a similar commission ought to be created. let's not get into this mess where we have six months to go with social security. you know how important it is for people. people are devastated by the recession and their pension plans lost. it is important to us, our kids come and grandchildren. i think we should create a commission that will report back to congress before a vote by the end of the next calendar year. i want to talk about the two toughest eleme
social security has not added one penny to the deficit. for those who say there is good reason to push it off the table and wait, i would add a note of caution. small changes made today in social security will play out over the long run to buy us solvency for a long time. we should take perhaps all the security off the table but be very honest but we will achieve in the near term. i think we should create the equivalent of eight simpson- bowles region of a simpson- bowles, and come up with a...
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not to reduce the deficit. if the goal was to reduce the deficit, why refuse to end taxpayer subsidies for the oil companies? if reducing the deficit was the purpose, why refuse to and special breaks for corporate jets and the folks at the very high end of the income scale? that was not the plan. the plan was to use this moment to threaten the economy, to try and slash the social safety net and those critical investments in education, innovation, and our future. guess what? they failed to do that. they failed to end the medicare guaranteed. they failed to slash medicaid, education. in this measure, we succeeded in protecting medicare and social security beneficiaries. we succeeded in protecting seniors in nursing homes, individuals with disabilities, and poor kids who depend on medicaid for their health care. we succeeded in providing room for critical investments in education and america's future. do not get the wrong, mr. speaker. there is much in this plan i do not like. we did not succeed in shutting down s
not to reduce the deficit. if the goal was to reduce the deficit, why refuse to end taxpayer subsidies for the oil companies? if reducing the deficit was the purpose, why refuse to and special breaks for corporate jets and the folks at the very high end of the income scale? that was not the plan. the plan was to use this moment to threaten the economy, to try and slash the social safety net and those critical investments in education, innovation, and our future. guess what? they failed to do...
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oh my goodness deficit deficit deficit, fix the tax code, and what are they proposing lowering their own taxes. it's a sham and they ought to be rolled out of town if people understand what they were talking about. >> if people are worried about how they're going to take care of the homeless, how schools will be able to accommodate 30 kids in the class rom how people will be able to make ends meet when unemployment disappears. they can't be here. they can't afford it. they come here and write it off in their taxes $20 million a year ceos from these corporations, and continue to spread the hysteria and--and if their plan goes through the austerity plan, they and their company and their bonuses are actually the only thing that is going to improve in this economy. >> eliot: as they have over the past couple of years. income disparity is worse and worse and incomes are going up. lloyd blankfein telling people that they people should not expect to work for 25 years and then retire for 30. i don't think he understands what social security is all about. >>> the hispanic caucus said no today
oh my goodness deficit deficit deficit, fix the tax code, and what are they proposing lowering their own taxes. it's a sham and they ought to be rolled out of town if people understand what they were talking about. >> if people are worried about how they're going to take care of the homeless, how schools will be able to accommodate 30 kids in the class rom how people will be able to make ends meet when unemployment disappears. they can't be here. they can't afford it. they come here and...
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we also have an infrastructure deficit and education and skills training deficit. we want to get back on track and address that issue. they will have a paycheck and their families will be able to have food on the table. i think this showed us that we can work in a bipartisan way. i hope that we can do that moving forward now to address the number one issue for every family. jobs. >> why would this be more successful in addressing taxes or entitlement program when the by in group for the -- >> the answer is pretty obvious. hanging over the head of the joint committee is this trigger that is pretty drastic. >> are there things to keep this from happening again? is there a chance that the house caucus once again will say, we are t going to support a debt ceiling increase after 2013. >> i think this sets the tone for what happens in the future and think the trigger kicks in. of course, they will take places in between that and 2013. >> the extension, by the end of the day, would you be head to head? >> we have 80,000 jobs on the line. we started construction about two
we also have an infrastructure deficit and education and skills training deficit. we want to get back on track and address that issue. they will have a paycheck and their families will be able to have food on the table. i think this showed us that we can work in a bipartisan way. i hope that we can do that moving forward now to address the number one issue for every family. jobs. >> why would this be more successful in addressing taxes or entitlement program when the by in group for the...
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. >> social security does not add one penny to the deficit. it's an important program, critical program. take care of it in the future and do it separate from the debt debate. >> i think most would agree that social security is not responsible for the deficit. clearly shouldn't be on the table for discussion. >> that might be true if lawmakers hadn't already borrowed and spent all the program surplus revenues from years past, which by law congress now has to pay back. adding to the deficit. >> the money came in. congress spent it. look here, we have money to spend. let's go ahead and spend it up. there it went. it's gone. >> social security now needs to start getting the money back again adds to the deficit. just this year alone, the social security trustees' report that "in 2012, the projected difference between social security's dedicated tax income and expenditures is $165 billion." part of the $165 billion added to the deficit, $112 billion of it is a result of the payroll tax cut that president obama pushed through, which by law congress
. >> social security does not add one penny to the deficit. it's an important program, critical program. take care of it in the future and do it separate from the debt debate. >> i think most would agree that social security is not responsible for the deficit. clearly shouldn't be on the table for discussion. >> that might be true if lawmakers hadn't already borrowed and spent all the program surplus revenues from years past, which by law congress now has to pay back. adding...
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the deficit will essentially go away. the bad side we're in a deep recession and the deficit will go away. this is an economy that can't afford to have 4% of our spending disappear just next year. we'll see a recession next year almost for sure and for certain. so that's the sense in which i think this is something to worry about. we want -- the recovery is faltering right now and we really don't need congress clubbing it over the head again, pushing us back down yet again. >> yet again. justin, thank you, sir, from the university of michigan. great to have you. >> thanks, alex. >> catch one of the key players in the fiscal cliff negotiations right here on "now" when senator patty murray joins us tomorrow at noon eastern. >>> and coming up after their romney nominee received just over a quarter of the latino vote republicans say they're ready to put up when it comes to comprehensive immigration reform. what are they doing about it? so far putting up a lot of window dressing. the display when telemundo's jose diaz-balart j
the deficit will essentially go away. the bad side we're in a deep recession and the deficit will go away. this is an economy that can't afford to have 4% of our spending disappear just next year. we'll see a recession next year almost for sure and for certain. so that's the sense in which i think this is something to worry about. we want -- the recovery is faltering right now and we really don't need congress clubbing it over the head again, pushing us back down yet again. >> yet again....
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it doesn't make a lot of sense to get rid of a deficit reduction program, as part of a deficit reduction deal. the white house already rejected boehner's idea. obama care will not be part of debt negotiations. boehner is up to something here, don't you think? something else, that is. if you watch john boehner closely over the last two weeks, you can see him laying the ground work for the latest ploy. he called obama care the law of the land, but also tried to link it to obama care and the budget. >> you had said, next year, that you would repeal the health care vote. that's still your mission? >> well, i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was re-elected. obama care is the law of the land. i think there are parts of the health care law that are going to be very difficult to implement. and very expensive. and at a time where we're trying to find a way to create a path toward a balanced budget, everything has to be on the table. >> but you won't be spending the time next year, trying to repeal obama care? >> there are certainly may be parts of it that we b
it doesn't make a lot of sense to get rid of a deficit reduction program, as part of a deficit reduction deal. the white house already rejected boehner's idea. obama care will not be part of debt negotiations. boehner is up to something here, don't you think? something else, that is. if you watch john boehner closely over the last two weeks, you can see him laying the ground work for the latest ploy. he called obama care the law of the land, but also tried to link it to obama care and the...
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it has not added one penny to the deficit. for those who say there is a good reason to push it off the table and we brought another day, i would add a note of caution. small changes made today in social security will play out over the long run it to buy solvency for a long time. i think we should take social security off the table for the current fiscal cliff but be very honest about what we're going to achieve in the near term. i think we should create the equivalent of the simpson- bowles commission for social security and give them eight months to a year to come up with a planned to buy us 75 years of solvency for social security. then bring it to the floor for a vote and allow any bipartisan group who can come up with a credible plan that meets the same goal to offer their own to be voted on in the senate and house. i might add a wrinkle here that senator mark warner came up with that i think is sensible. there should be a decennial process. every 10 years, but they should measure whether or not social security still has 7
it has not added one penny to the deficit. for those who say there is a good reason to push it off the table and we brought another day, i would add a note of caution. small changes made today in social security will play out over the long run it to buy solvency for a long time. i think we should take social security off the table for the current fiscal cliff but be very honest about what we're going to achieve in the near term. i think we should create the equivalent of the simpson- bowles...
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it's complete bs to say that this has any deficit implications. it doesn't. this is just a smoke screen. it's a red herring. it's another excuse for not doing what needs to be done. the american people have spoken. the central issue in the campaign was not only tax fairness but raising taxes on the top 2% as a means to help us balance -- get rid of the deficit and eat into the debt. and the american people have said, yes, that's one of the components of the deal. so this is just another smoke screen. it's a delaying tactic. i truly believe that if they keep this up they will pay for it and they will pay for it big time, certainly in the election of 2014. but the sad part is, the nation and people can't wait. we've got to resolve this debt because if we do so, rev, will cause the economy to explode. we will see a resurge in investment, good things happening for the economy. >> congressman ellison, with all of that at stake and clear from every expert that we've heard, it's clear that if we don't solve this problem, if we have the fiscal cliff, if we go over at
it's complete bs to say that this has any deficit implications. it doesn't. this is just a smoke screen. it's a red herring. it's another excuse for not doing what needs to be done. the american people have spoken. the central issue in the campaign was not only tax fairness but raising taxes on the top 2% as a means to help us balance -- get rid of the deficit and eat into the debt. and the american people have said, yes, that's one of the components of the deal. so this is just another smoke...
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>> so much of the federal deficit does come from ticket demographic problem, which is that many baby boomers are going to be retiring -- the fact -- come from a demographic problem, which is that many baby boomers are going to be retiring. >> we are maintaining the position of no cuts, because there's not any conversation happening in this capital area yet about revenue. that there can be improvements in the delivery of medicare. the demographic problem in this country in our minds has to be solved by creating good jobs and getting the economy growing from people spending again because i have enough money in their pockets to generate the kind of revenue that will allow for the medicare system to be solvent through the next generation. >> would you go along with passed medicare cuts of president obama has proposed in past budgets, and seek to cut the rate of growth? >> our current position is that there is no reason to entertain any question like that, because there is no indication that we're going to break on revenue. it is important to maintain and no cuts position to break the no
>> so much of the federal deficit does come from ticket demographic problem, which is that many baby boomers are going to be retiring -- the fact -- come from a demographic problem, which is that many baby boomers are going to be retiring. >> we are maintaining the position of no cuts, because there's not any conversation happening in this capital area yet about revenue. that there can be improvements in the delivery of medicare. the demographic problem in this country in our minds...
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i think that, you know, if we cut the budget, if we cut the deficit and raise taxes, i don't think that's the worst thing in the world. as warren buffett has been saying for the last 24 hours, are you really going to turn down a good investment opportunity just because the tax rates are a little higher in we're talking about a minor 4 percentage point increase in the upper end of the tax rate here. it's not life or death. you know, cutting the deficit and raising taxes, if they can't agree, which congress has shown themselves inability to agree. if they're not going to agree, maybe it's not the worst thing in the world for tax rates to go up and for the deficit to be cut. i think that could result in a big economic boom. >> wow. >> and then, let's say two weeks after we go over the cliff, after the 1st of january, they then cut attacks for everybody -- >> but here's the problem with that notion. it's not fine. but, john, it's not fine because a lot of ordinary middle class people -- >> that's the problem. >> -- are trying to spend money at christmas and they're deeply anxious about what's
i think that, you know, if we cut the budget, if we cut the deficit and raise taxes, i don't think that's the worst thing in the world. as warren buffett has been saying for the last 24 hours, are you really going to turn down a good investment opportunity just because the tax rates are a little higher in we're talking about a minor 4 percentage point increase in the upper end of the tax rate here. it's not life or death. you know, cutting the deficit and raising taxes, if they can't agree,...
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as a matter of deficit negotiations, i think boehner is not on strong footing. >> interesting. there are a lot of problems with obama care. i think obama would be the first person to acknowledge that. he didn't get a lot of things he wanted in there. but david frum, what is john boehner doing? what is he possibly trying to gain from this? >> okay, i'm going with your crazy luke a fox option. >> good. >> john baner is about to have to bring the more conservative part of his caucus, some very bad news. republicans don't have a wlost leverage. tax cuts expire whether without anybody doing anything. and republicans are going to end up yielding a lot more than they give -- than they get in the negotiations. and john boehner, as the chief negotiator is the man identified with that surrender. so he needs to put down a marker now that says to the right wheel of the caucus, hey, i'm with you. if it were up to me, 100%. i'm with you. and i am going to put it in writing. i'm completely in favor of doing all the things that would have happened if we won the election. however, we didn't win
as a matter of deficit negotiations, i think boehner is not on strong footing. >> interesting. there are a lot of problems with obama care. i think obama would be the first person to acknowledge that. he didn't get a lot of things he wanted in there. but david frum, what is john boehner doing? what is he possibly trying to gain from this? >> okay, i'm going with your crazy luke a fox option. >> good. >> john baner is about to have to bring the more conservative part of...
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that's significant deficit reduction and you don't have to get into all this michigas as my grandma would say about which loopholes you're going to close. when you go that route you run into the same math problem mitt romney had. there's typically not enough revenue to make up for if the upper -- >> i have seen you do the experiment with the glass and it's wonderful. most americans think washington officials will behave like spoiled children, and warren buffett took the gop to school today, quote, let's forget about the rich and ultra rich going on strike and stuffing their ample funds under their mattresses if, gasp, capital gains rates and ordinary income rates are increased. the ultra rich, including me, says mr. buffett, will forever pursue investment opportunities. so he's calling for a minimum tax on millionaires and billionaires. will republicans listen? >> well, it's a sensible way. if we're going to have a deal, we will have to see some kind of compromise. a minimum tax on people making over $1 million a year can generate a half it trillion in a ten-year scale. if you include ded
that's significant deficit reduction and you don't have to get into all this michigas as my grandma would say about which loopholes you're going to close. when you go that route you run into the same math problem mitt romney had. there's typically not enough revenue to make up for if the upper -- >> i have seen you do the experiment with the glass and it's wonderful. most americans think washington officials will behave like spoiled children, and warren buffett took the gop to school...
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the bars below zero represent years when the deficit grew. these bars above zero represent years when the deficit shrunk. we're here right now in the deficit shrunk portion of the chart. the point of the shrinking on the whole chart back to 1950. when somebody stops inevitably matering about the fiscal cliff and the sky rocketing deficit, they don't know what they're talking about and they probably don't know it is wrong but you can help with visual aids. we have posted both of those charts we just showed you on our blog and you can load them on your smartphone or ipad to pass around the table and print them out on paper in case your uncle doesn't look liking at these new things. those are waiting for you now. we are here for you. you can do this. report back and let us know how it went. that does it for us tonight. have a great thanksgiving. we'll see you monday. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell guest hosted by the spectacular ezra kline. good evening. >> good evening, rachel. i am glad to know other people bring char
the bars below zero represent years when the deficit grew. these bars above zero represent years when the deficit shrunk. we're here right now in the deficit shrunk portion of the chart. the point of the shrinking on the whole chart back to 1950. when somebody stops inevitably matering about the fiscal cliff and the sky rocketing deficit, they don't know what they're talking about and they probably don't know it is wrong but you can help with visual aids. we have posted both of those charts we...
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to do serious long-term debt and deficit reduction you have to do entitlement reform. what this president is feeling is the popular sensibility is polls show the majority of americans don't even want to raise the age on medicare from 65 to 67 and they are using that so they don't have to do serious reform but you cannot control the debt or the deficit without serious in title and reform. medicare is going to come crashing down unless you do something period. dick durbin knows that. the liberal democratic senators signed off on the simpson-bowles proposal but right now he is saying i don't want to do that as part of the fiscal cliff solution. let's take off until next year. dennis: thank you for being with us. cheryl: fiscal cliff survival kit. today it is your home addition. new talk but washington made do away with the tax break for home mortgage deduction or change the calculation and hit high income earners. the managing partner of mortgage banking solutions joins me from austin, texas with his fiscal cliff survival tips. thank you for being with us on our series th
to do serious long-term debt and deficit reduction you have to do entitlement reform. what this president is feeling is the popular sensibility is polls show the majority of americans don't even want to raise the age on medicare from 65 to 67 and they are using that so they don't have to do serious reform but you cannot control the debt or the deficit without serious in title and reform. medicare is going to come crashing down unless you do something period. dick durbin knows that. the liberal...
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naturally is part the deficit-reduction discussions. the group supporting the attack site include state highway officials, road builders, trucking associations, the simpson-bowles planner it proposed raising the tax as well. there's another tax in the fiscal cliff and possible gas tax is not the only tax to hit the bottom line. deal or no deal, hold on to your wallet. here with more, the senior tax policy analyst for the heritage foundation. always nice to have you on the show. let's talk out the bottom line for so many people out there, it will hit so many folks, 90% of households, almost impossible escape and create that. >> everyone's taxes will go up on january 1st. important to point out we're talking about today which is raising taxes. that is off point. the fiscal cliff is here because we're spending tooomuch. we are the precedents of the debt crisis because we're spending too muc how we can raise taxes and talk about raising the gas tax, nothing to do with cutting spending which is where we should be directing our attention. ger
naturally is part the deficit-reduction discussions. the group supporting the attack site include state highway officials, road builders, trucking associations, the simpson-bowles planner it proposed raising the tax as well. there's another tax in the fiscal cliff and possible gas tax is not the only tax to hit the bottom line. deal or no deal, hold on to your wallet. here with more, the senior tax policy analyst for the heritage foundation. always nice to have you on the show. let's talk out...
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the president's message >>> if we get this part of it right, a lot of the other issues surrounding deficit reduction are going to be a whole lot easier. if we get this wrong, the economy is going to go south. we don't have a lot of time here. we have a few weeks to get this thing done. we could get it done tomorrow. optimistically, i don't think we are going to get it done tomorrow. >> the white house is using all social media resources to get the message out and put pressure on the republicans. >> today, i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. tell members of congress what a $2,000 tax hike would mean to you. call your members of congress, write them an e-mail, post it on their facebook walls. you can tweet it using the hash tag my 2 k, not y2 k. >> the president was laughing about you the strategy, seriously effective. the my2k was one of the top trends on twitter all day long. republicans aren't too happy. they are getting outflanked. >> if the president wants to reach an agreement, he n
the president's message >>> if we get this part of it right, a lot of the other issues surrounding deficit reduction are going to be a whole lot easier. if we get this wrong, the economy is going to go south. we don't have a lot of time here. we have a few weeks to get this thing done. we could get it done tomorrow. optimistically, i don't think we are going to get it done tomorrow. >> the white house is using all social media resources to get the message out and put pressure on...
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i sat back and watched my country grow a huge deficit while i accumulated money that was handed to me while i had tax increases that i didn't ask for. so i want to see my class step up and do what it has the capacity to do. >> you may have a chance who knows. thank you. >> casey mulligan, thank you very much. now let's go to grover, he has never been more prominent. here is my question for you. the republican ares are taking about tax hikes. it doesn't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. that is bill crystal weekly standard. what is your take on the verbal time bomb? >> he focuses on other issues and has said before that he would leave the republican party and join the liberal hawks if the party was pro war in the past. i don't know how he gets plural on hawks. but the party is committed to low taxes and limited government and the people who aren't there can't call themselves republicans or conserve taticon. after this elicks grover, did people want to see common ground to deal with a fiscal cliff recession or trillion deficits as far as the eye can see? i
i sat back and watched my country grow a huge deficit while i accumulated money that was handed to me while i had tax increases that i didn't ask for. so i want to see my class step up and do what it has the capacity to do. >> you may have a chance who knows. thank you. >> casey mulligan, thank you very much. now let's go to grover, he has never been more prominent. here is my question for you. the republican ares are taking about tax hikes. it doesn't kill the country if we raise...
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as you know, we have a trillion dollar annual deficit and this would not close that gap at all. so the president needs to come up with a plan and for better or worse going to require leadership. no member of the senate or the house is going to be able to do this, this is something the president has to do by himself and he can't do it on the campaign trail. >> let me ask you this because you wrote an op-ed today and you wrote about divided government about the deal. you said divided government means that neither democrats nor republicans will be able to pass legislation along strictly partisan lines. it means bipartisan compromise is the only way to avoid further gridlock. we cannot tax our way back to budget surpluses and economic prosperity. without major spending cuts and entitlement reform, we will continue running huge deficits regardless of what we do on the revenue side. for every dollar of revenue you give him, he'll give you $2.50 of spending cuts. if he gave you that on spending cuts, it would be $850 billon a year would you do that? >> the president has said a lot of t
as you know, we have a trillion dollar annual deficit and this would not close that gap at all. so the president needs to come up with a plan and for better or worse going to require leadership. no member of the senate or the house is going to be able to do this, this is something the president has to do by himself and he can't do it on the campaign trail. >> let me ask you this because you wrote an op-ed today and you wrote about divided government about the deal. you said divided...
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shy add, chris, that another really important part of this conversation in addition to long term deficit reduction is making sure that we get sustained economic recovery. we saw some good numbers today, but we want to make sure that we sustain that recovery. and extending middle class text cuts is part of it, but so is investing in our infrastructure, so are other elements of the president's jobs plan that should be part of this overall agreement. >> we have seen several liberal democrats to say that it is better to go off that cliff than to get a bad deal. and i'm wondering if you agree because it seems like the ceos who came out of the meeting with the president yesterday were most worried or at least seriously worried about the effect of not getting a deal on time and the effect that will have on the economy. >> we absolutely want to avoid going over the fiscal cliff because it would be a big drag on the economy. >> but are you willing to do that? >> what we're willing to do is come up with a package that both accelerates economic recovery, but also begins to reduce the long term defi
shy add, chris, that another really important part of this conversation in addition to long term deficit reduction is making sure that we get sustained economic recovery. we saw some good numbers today, but we want to make sure that we sustain that recovery. and extending middle class text cuts is part of it, but so is investing in our infrastructure, so are other elements of the president's jobs plan that should be part of this overall agreement. >> we have seen several liberal democrats...
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. $1.3 trillion in deficit. $901 billion, for next year, in deficit and our national debt is now over $16 trillion, and everybody knows that, i don't need to write that down. and, the president's big plan, he wants -- wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes. and here's how he wants to get there. first he wants to raise 8$849 billion over ten years by allowing the bush tax cuts, here they go... away. on the 31st of december, this year. they'll expire for households with incomes more than $250,000, $849 billion, includes $206 billion, of higher taxes on dividends. $123 billion, on limiting itemized deductions. $36 billion, higher taxes on capital gains. and, next, the white house want to raise another $584 billion, over ten years... $584 billion, of that, over ten years by reducing the value of certain tax breaks, cutting tax breaks related to charitable contributions and, by the way it may have an impact on the housing industry and that should get everybody a little excited. we have something good going here as the saying goes now, in the housing industry and let's quash that. the rest of the
. $1.3 trillion in deficit. $901 billion, for next year, in deficit and our national debt is now over $16 trillion, and everybody knows that, i don't need to write that down. and, the president's big plan, he wants -- wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes. and here's how he wants to get there. first he wants to raise 8$849 billion over ten years by allowing the bush tax cuts, here they go... away. on the 31st of december, this year. they'll expire for households with incomes more than $250,000, $849...
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well, as you know, we are running over $1 trillion deficit. even if it is a few hundred billion of revenue, it is going to reduce the total amount of borrowing. and it has to be mediate. it can't be a promise for future spending cuts. >> this last point. is it possible to have rules? >> a lot of famous economists say we should have rules on spending. why not have a cap on debt as a share on gdp. why not have that as our goal is to put it as 50 or 60%? >> well, the answer is you could. except we out to be progractica. but whatever laws congress sets congress can break. they have refused to do a budget. it is not a rule it is a law and it is the statute. so, i'm in favor of some of these rules, but i'm recognizing at the end of the day, what matters more is what you send to washington. >> well, we he have a little more than a month to go and nobody seap seems to know how s going to play out. many, many thanks for coming on. cyber monday was a record breaker this year. sales rising 30% compared to this year. mobile dievises played a big role. so
well, as you know, we are running over $1 trillion deficit. even if it is a few hundred billion of revenue, it is going to reduce the total amount of borrowing. and it has to be mediate. it can't be a promise for future spending cuts. >> this last point. is it possible to have rules? >> a lot of famous economists say we should have rules on spending. why not have a cap on debt as a share on gdp. why not have that as our goal is to put it as 50 or 60%? >> well, the answer is...
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college students have contributed $4.50 billion out of their pockets toward deficit reduction. we have had things squeezing us at different levels. we are facing the biggest threat from what is called a sequester, the fiscal cliff. one part of the fiscal cliff arc across the board -- across the board -- are across-the-board spending cuts. they will be cutting housing and food safety and the entire range of domestic programs. for education, that will be head start, which is in the department of health and human services. there will be a $4.80 billion cut, the largest education cut in the history of the country. that will move us that courts whether the goal is -- move us backwards. our biggest challenge in the short-term is to work together with groups like the urban league and the national council of la raza to come up with a balanced approach to deficit reduction and ask people who can pay a little bit more to do so without balancing the budget on the backs of children and students and working people and low income people. a couple of quick things i want to say. we are also fa
college students have contributed $4.50 billion out of their pockets toward deficit reduction. we have had things squeezing us at different levels. we are facing the biggest threat from what is called a sequester, the fiscal cliff. one part of the fiscal cliff arc across the board -- across the board -- are across-the-board spending cuts. they will be cutting housing and food safety and the entire range of domestic programs. for education, that will be head start, which is in the department of...
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social security didn't cause the deficit. we don't need to cut social security to solve the problem. >> congressman defazio and a few others say let's go over the cliff if it means touching social security. what do you say? >> we should avoid going over the cliff, and the keys to the car are in the republicans' hands with respect to this tax issue. with respect to social security, i agree with what the president has said and what peter defazio said. social security is not part of the deficit and debt problem. we're not going to raid social security in order to balance other parts of the budget. as the president has said, you can deal with social security and try to strengthien it on yor own terms. with respect to health care, what we've said is we opposed the republican approach, which is simply to transfer rising health care costs onto the backs of seniors. what we should do and can do is build on the affordable care act where we found savings within the health care system by changes the incentive structures, by modernizing
social security didn't cause the deficit. we don't need to cut social security to solve the problem. >> congressman defazio and a few others say let's go over the cliff if it means touching social security. what do you say? >> we should avoid going over the cliff, and the keys to the car are in the republicans' hands with respect to this tax issue. with respect to social security, i agree with what the president has said and what peter defazio said. social security is not part of...
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we had a significant deficit. but the long term looked possible if we could solve the sshort-term problems. that was easier. in 1990, the parties were competitive, but they were not polarized. in those days, the bad guys were the opposition. today, they are the enemy. there is a world of difference between those two words. yes, we had some distrust. also, we had the ability to work with each other and believe each other and it made life easier at that time. there were other divisions in the congress. the party polarization today tends to make it republicans versus democrats all the way. there were other sub factions in those days. the budgeteers verses the appropriators, etc., that cut across some of those party lines. the most important difference, in my judgment, is that there was less outside pressure upon the negotiators from the radio and tv extremists, lobbyists, core constituencies, users of social media, etc. mostl they did not get 500 e-mails every minute in their office. they did not have people featurin
we had a significant deficit. but the long term looked possible if we could solve the sshort-term problems. that was easier. in 1990, the parties were competitive, but they were not polarized. in those days, the bad guys were the opposition. today, they are the enemy. there is a world of difference between those two words. yes, we had some distrust. also, we had the ability to work with each other and believe each other and it made life easier at that time. there were other divisions in the...
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social security does not contribute to the debt or deficit. it is not part of our deficit driver. it is an issue that can be solved. look, we did see it in the '80s, some tough medicine. everybody took it but it extended the life of social security for decades. we could do that again. it shouldn't be on the table and look, as it relates to medicare, let's remember this president extended the life of medicare through the affordable care act. these people are still talking about eliminating affordable care act or putting cuts to the affordable care act on the table when the affordable care act is helping bring the deficit down. >> bill: give it up. not to mention -- >> the election's over. the environment has changed. >> bill: thank you. i haven't heard one republican yet say they will vote to end the bush tax cuts for the wealthiest of americans. so what has changed? >> not one. >> bill: for them, not much. brad woodhouse in studio with us. communications director for the dnc. join the conversation any time at 1-866-55-press or on twitter or facebook. we'll be right back. >> announ
social security does not contribute to the debt or deficit. it is not part of our deficit driver. it is an issue that can be solved. look, we did see it in the '80s, some tough medicine. everybody took it but it extended the life of social security for decades. we could do that again. it shouldn't be on the table and look, as it relates to medicare, let's remember this president extended the life of medicare through the affordable care act. these people are still talking about eliminating...
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we can't afford to run 1.2 to $1.5 trillion deficits every year. and we can't afford to bring obama care on to the books, because we know it has already doubled in its predicted cost. it was -- >> congresswoman, forgive me for cutting you off. but final question, yes or no, you think you'll be on the hill come christmas talking about this? >> oh, no, no. i think what you're going to do is see us find a way to move the bulk of this, to get past the fiscal cliff to address that, and then to have a good discussion. i'm pleased to welcome the president, the democrats to the discussion. this is something some of us have been trying to get done for many years. and i'm delighted to see that they're finally putting their attention on it. we have to get the fiscal house in order. >> thank you so much. live for me on the hill today, appreciate it. >>> today, business titans. tomorrow, the business guy trying to take his job. that's right, president obama and mitt romney will be meeting at the white house for lunch in the private dining room, no, no. no camer
we can't afford to run 1.2 to $1.5 trillion deficits every year. and we can't afford to bring obama care on to the books, because we know it has already doubled in its predicted cost. it was -- >> congresswoman, forgive me for cutting you off. but final question, yes or no, you think you'll be on the hill come christmas talking about this? >> oh, no, no. i think what you're going to do is see us find a way to move the bulk of this, to get past the fiscal cliff to address that, and...
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the spending deductions have not reduced our deficit. we still have, the president still has $1 trillion plus deficit if this next fiscal year. he had it for the past four and he has it for the next four if he follows the same course. that is not a road to prosperity or job creation. or economic vitality. >>neil: i want to be clear, congressman. republicans do not appear to be on the same page on this, as republicans, are you saying your view, hiking the rates or adjusting in any way is felt universally by your colleagues? we know a couple of them have bolted from that but you are going to hold in lock step on that position? >>guest: there is a universality in our conference with 240 of us in the house of representatives so there are 240 different opinions but by and large the majority of us firmly believe raising tax rates is counterproductive and doesn't solve the problem. >>neil: always a pleasure, sir, thank you. take the money and run? not quite but quite a run of companies hiking dividends. and disney is the latest and it will prob
the spending deductions have not reduced our deficit. we still have, the president still has $1 trillion plus deficit if this next fiscal year. he had it for the past four and he has it for the next four if he follows the same course. that is not a road to prosperity or job creation. or economic vitality. >>neil: i want to be clear, congressman. republicans do not appear to be on the same page on this, as republicans, are you saying your view, hiking the rates or adjusting in any way is...
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deficits that are unsustainable. i hope at the end of this year that -- congress will extend the middle class for 98% of americans, but let the tax cuts on that 2% expire. host: william mcbride, is the payroll tax cut a side issue? guest: it was front and center a year ago. it was debated in stages. we had a two month extension last year at this time. we had a protracted debate that picked up again in february and was extended again for the rest of the year. that was an major push by the president. it is a major deal. it is more than $100 billion a year, the estimate is $125 billion a year. that is more than 10% of the deficit. these are big numbers. it is an unprecedented policy, to start it two years ago and prior to that time -- the first time it was passed it was for one year. it was debated again last year. we did not play around politically with the payroll tax to much. nothing like we did with the income tax. it is rather unprecedented, cuts in to a program that was posted a dedicated to social security -- sup
deficits that are unsustainable. i hope at the end of this year that -- congress will extend the middle class for 98% of americans, but let the tax cuts on that 2% expire. host: william mcbride, is the payroll tax cut a side issue? guest: it was front and center a year ago. it was debated in stages. we had a two month extension last year at this time. we had a protracted debate that picked up again in february and was extended again for the rest of the year. that was an major push by the...
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liz: it is tough to see a return, it is a wild one today, the dow coming back from 113 point deficit. a lot of reasons for this but in the last couple minutes the traders, what are they saying? nicole: traders are talking about the fiscal cliff back-and-forth and you talk about another q e, talk about tomorrow tim geithner and john boehner meeting, house speaker john boehner actually sounded very optimistic that a deal could be reached. dave: green mountain we saw signs when they came out with earnings yesterday. is roaring ahead up 20% at one point, twenty-seven%. nicole: what an exciting day for green mountain coffee roasters. a lot of people are short this stock and beat the street and gave an outlook that was better and a winner all the way around. dave: you don't want to get caught in your shorts whatever you do. nicole: right. right. liz: we are waiting on aerospatiale, that retail expected to post earnings minutes from now. that stock with other retailers got a decent pot of 7% today but this is the american eagle outfitters. what are we expecting? nicole: the retailers are and
liz: it is tough to see a return, it is a wild one today, the dow coming back from 113 point deficit. a lot of reasons for this but in the last couple minutes the traders, what are they saying? nicole: traders are talking about the fiscal cliff back-and-forth and you talk about another q e, talk about tomorrow tim geithner and john boehner meeting, house speaker john boehner actually sounded very optimistic that a deal could be reached. dave: green mountain we saw signs when they came out with...